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old dan
Apr 30th, 2001, 01:02 PM
I currently have my domain registered thru NSI. For the next year and a half. Is there any way I can change it to another ds. Without losing any money:)
Martie
Apr 30th, 2001, 01:11 PM
I highly recommend you do so !
http://www.000domains.com
come highly recommended. Very easy to manage your own domain there. Nice graphical interface to do so.
Here are the easy instructions
http://000domains.com/cgi-bin/transfer.cgi?action=transfer
I think as long as the domain is still in current status, you can put in the transfer at the above url....I believe they will "tack on" a years fee (13.50) to your expiry date....so in essence, you just get the extra time added onto your domain!
WELL WORTH 13.50, I might add!
Dan
Apr 30th, 2001, 01:48 PM
http://www.dotster.com is another alternative.
But get away from NSI!
Jaiem
Apr 30th, 2001, 02:04 PM
You'll only "loose money" in the sense of not using the registration time you paid for with NSI. You can wait a little more but don't leave it for the last minute. NSI doesn't allow transfers out within a certain amount of days before renewal (not certain the exact number).
DesertSage
Apr 30th, 2001, 03:39 PM
I would like to quote a line from the movie Star Trek III, delivered by Christopher Lloyd as Klingon Commander Kruge, when discovering that his crewmen had beamed aboard the booby-trapped Starship Enterprise, with only seconds to go until self-destruct:
"GET OUT! GET OUT OF THERE!" :eek: :eek: :eek:
old dan
Apr 30th, 2001, 06:24 PM
Okay, lets see if I've got this straight. You're advising me to switch, right? :D Nap, should have it done by this weekend. As I pay for things by check it takes a little longer.
One thing I don't understand tho, how can NS get away with offering less for more $? I know that they used to be the only player in town, but surely they would have caught on by now.
DesertSage
Apr 30th, 2001, 06:38 PM
I still have a couple domains on NSI, and plan to transfer them away as soon as I have the spare cash.
As you have guessed, they are still around because they were there first. In a way, I liked it when there was only one registrar (made things simple, like the old days before the phone company breakup) but they are just too much of a pain to deal with. And most folks who stay there do so because they don't know better.
I lean toward paying by check myself, so you are not alone there. Nobody makes it easy for us, do they?
Anyway, from my experience, Dotster is very good and easy to work with, and a recent transfer I did of a domain from NSI to Dotster went without a hitch. I'm sure there are several other good registrars, though.
Good luck!
PS: The "Junior Member" thing by my name is kinda funny, but then why don't I get carded anymore? ;) How many posts 'til it goes away, I wonder...
old dan
Apr 30th, 2001, 07:10 PM
I dunno, I kinda like the junior thing. Makes me feel young again ~sigh~
And I'm guessing 50 posts and we become a member. :D
DesertSage
Apr 30th, 2001, 07:35 PM
I usually feel young, except when I:
a) Wake up in the morning.
b) Hunt for my glasses.
c) Look in the mirror.
:D
(Okay, this is off-topic, so I'll stop before we both get booted down into the "Community" category.)
JTY
Apr 30th, 2001, 08:17 PM
http://www.joker.com/ is suppose to be a good registrar, as is http://www.stargateinc.net/
akashik
May 1st, 2001, 04:36 AM
I know it's hard to believe once you've been online for a while but there is a *lot* of people that don't even know there is a way to register a domain outside of Net Sol. Their market penetration is pretty deep and a lot of the larger hosts have deals with them etc that push people towards using their services.
Also there are people who believe that paying the extra money will give them a better service which while may be true in certain cir***stances, isn't in this case.
Do you lose money? No. As stated, renewing your domain by transfering it to a different registrar will have your end date extended by whatever you register it for. For instance, if your domain is current until December this year and you transfer it to 000domains or Dotster you select the period you want it for. If you select 1 year, then the expiration will be extended to December next year (rather than just a year from now)
Greg Moore
DesertSage
May 1st, 2001, 06:24 AM
NetSol sells our info to spammers and junk mailers. I get more garbage emails and snail mail from my domains on NSI. All the junk snail mail is addressed to the unique org. name I *only* used with NetSol. Lots of ValueWeb and Interliant brochures, Dell Computer server catalogs, and now, even Columbia Record Club ads. Thanks again, NetSol. Grrr... :mad:
yourdomainhost
May 1st, 2001, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by DesertSage
NetSol sells our info to spammers and junk mailers. I get more garbage emails and snail mail from my domains on NSI. All the junk snail mail is addressed to the unique org. name I *only* used with NetSol. Lots of ValueWeb and Interliant brochures, Dell Computer server catalogs, and now, even Columbia Record Club ads. Thanks again, NetSol. Grrr... :mad:
Actually, all ICANN-accredited registrars are required by ICANN to make that information available to third-parties unless the registrant specifically opts-out of the bulk whois database. The opt-out option not required -- registrars can offer it if they choose. It's also "against the rules" to use the database for spamming, but we all know how useful that rule is.
Anyway, it's ICANN's fault, not Network Solutions'. NetSol, in fact, does offer the opt-out option (as long as you can find it.)
TUCOWS/OpenSRS is sort of leading a fight to convince ICANN to change the requirement to specific opt-in. We'll see how that goes.
James
DesertSage
May 1st, 2001, 02:38 PM
All my spam has been related to my NetSol domains. Not a thing has come from my domains bought via other registrars. As you suggest, the opt-out is well hidden ...I sure never saw it...
yourdomainhost
May 1st, 2001, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by DesertSage
All my spam has been related to my NetSol domains. Not a thing has come from my domains bought via other registrars. As you suggest, the opt-out is well hidden ...I sure never saw it...
From their FAQ at http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/help/faq-privacy-policy.jhtml#name6
I'd rather not have my customer information made available to other companies. How do I opt-out?
Customers who do not want their information shared with selected Network Solutions business partners may opt-out by following the instructions below:
Instructions for Opting-Out of Bulk WHOIS Data
Send an e-mail to privacy@networksolutions.com. Include the words "remove bulk access" in the subject line of the e-mail and all the domain names for which you are the registrant in the body of the e-mail.
Instructions for Opting-Out of other data files made available to Network Solutions' partners:
Send an e-mail to privacy@networksolutions.com. Include the words "remove domain" in the subject line of the e-mail and all the domain names for which you are the registrant in the body of the e-mail.
Of course, if this actually works, it will be the first time in recorded history that sending an e-mail to Network Solutions actually accomplished anything. :rolleyes: And, of course, it's not going to remove your address from lists that have already been sold. I recently redirected my old NetSol contact e-mail address to oblivion and cut my spam in half.
James
P.S. In the same FAQ, they also state, "If you have received spam, we recommend that you contact the e-mail sender directly and asked to be removed from their e-mail list. " Anybody who knows anything about the way that spammers operate knows that's the stupidest suggestion anyone could make.
DesertSage
May 1st, 2001, 05:00 PM
Well, it's good to know they *DO* offer an opt-out now. I registered my first domains with NetSol in 1995 or 96 and I don't believe they offered it back then. I'm already on many spam snail mail lists also, and trying to get them to "turn it off" is not easy. I have pretty much given up on a couple of my email addresses, and like you, I've pointed some of my contact addys to "oblivion."
old dan
May 2nd, 2001, 01:31 AM
Actually, all ICANN-accredited registrars are required by ICANN to make that information available to third-parties unless the registrant specifically opts-out of the bulk whois database.
Well that's pretty stupid. I wonder if I asked ICANN to furnish me with a list of their names, address and emails if they would comply. :) I'm guessing not.
I think the part of the issue here is whether or not a domain name registration should be a matter of public record.
As far as spam goes it's more a nuisance than anything. My favorite subject line is; re: the information you requested.
old dan
May 2nd, 2001, 02:08 AM
Just got this in the mail. It was addressed to aowiejfowie@recordingwebsite.com I've got to get rid of that catch all email :) I love the grammer.
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yourdomainhost
May 2nd, 2001, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by old dan
I think the part of the issue here is whether or not a domain name registration should be a matter of public record.
If you were defrauded, libelled, or had your copyright/trademark infringed upon by a web site, wouldn't you want to know where to go to seek recourse? It's the same reason that businesses and corporations have to be registered -- so people can find you when they want to sue you ;)
As far as spam goes it's more a nuisance than anything.
You must not get as much of it as I do. I found a nice little anti-spam program called Spam-Eater at http://www.hms.com . Been testing it for a couple of days, and so far it's awesome -- very accurate and configurable.
James
old dan
May 2nd, 2001, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by yourdomainhost
If you were defrauded, libelled, or had your copyright/trademark infringed upon by a web site, wouldn't you want to know where to go to seek recourse? It's the same reason that businesses and corporations have to be registered -- so people can find you when they want to sue you ;)
I agree, and I meant to say that ;)
You must not get as much of it as I do. I found a nice little anti-spam program called Spam-Eater at http://www.hms.com . Been testing it for a couple of days, and so far it's awesome -- very accurate and configurable.
James
My ISP does a real good job at filtering too. Course some gets thru. And a guy at work swears by Spam-Eater. there are a couple of others but can't think of their names right now. gotta go to work :(
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