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Mr Chunder
May 26th, 2001, 06:18 AM
I've been looking into requirements for remotely accessing NT and Win2K servers for admin purposes.

As I understand it, there are three different mechanisms:

1. pcAnywhere or one of the very similar type products where a heavy protocol is used to carry the front end of the remote server across TCPIP to whereever I am.

2. Telnet or SSH ala Unix - not good enough for Windows tasks.

3. Win2K Terminal Services - the one built into Win2K - not tried this.

4. A web based service such as IBM Desktop on Call where you can access your Window server front end via a web browser anywhere on the net.

Has anyone tried 3 or 4 above ? Has anyone an alternative method for accessing their windows front end remotely ?

I am particularly interested in the IBM option since it means I can access it anywhere with a browser rather than requiring the cumbersome pcAnywhere client.

Thanks

toneatlas
May 26th, 2001, 09:08 PM
how about bo2k?

Mr Chunder
May 28th, 2001, 05:22 PM
Jeez toneatlas, you're kidding :lol: :lol: :lol:



BO2K, or Back Orifice 2000 to give it's exact name is a trojan from the Cult of the Dead Cow, and the follow up to the original Back Orifice, which came out in 1998, and was the original trojan. This latest version works on both Windows 9x, and Windows NT, a feature that was missing from the first version. This latest version of BO was released under the GNU public license, and therfore the Visual C++ code is available for anyone who wants it. The original functionality that is supplied with BO2K can also be extended upon with the use of plug-ins, many of which come from the Cult of the Dead Cow themselves, and L0pht Heavy Industries.

toneatlas
May 28th, 2001, 06:31 PM
Actually I'm not kidding bo2k has high levels of encryption that NO software out can touch, not even the most secure software applications have the option of levels of encryption that bo2k has, it has features that we could only imagine of. It can do things that we wish every remote access client can do.
Im not here to promote hacking or anything of that sort but the software was written by the guys that cracked MS 128 bit encryption.
Not to blow anyones horn but a MAJOR hosting company in the NYC area has bo2k installed on ALL their servers and this company has a monthly revenue of around $350,000 'hey im not gonna say your name ok' because I know he browses these forums. we're actually good friends.

hypertech
May 29th, 2001, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Mr Chunder
I've been looking into requirements for remotely accessing NT and Win2K servers for admin purposes.

As I understand it, there are three different mechanisms:

1. pcAnywhere or one of the very similar type products where a heavy protocol is used to carry the front end of the remote server across TCPIP to whereever I am.

2. Telnet or SSH ala Unix - not good enough for Windows tasks.

3. Win2K Terminal Services - the one built into Win2K - not tried this.

4. A web based service such as IBM Desktop on Call where you can access your Window server front end via a web browser anywhere on the net.

Has anyone tried 3 or 4 above ? Has anyone an alternative method for accessing their windows front end remotely ?

I am particularly interested in the IBM option since it means I can access it anywhere with a browser rather than requiring the cumbersome pcAnywhere client.

Thanks

I use Net Meeting and it works great for remote administration.

http://www.hyper-techs.com
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JTY
May 29th, 2001, 11:12 PM
http://www.radmin.com/ is suppose to be nice......

Mr Chunder
May 30th, 2001, 04:30 PM
Thanks you guys for your suggestions but I'm really interested in peoples' experience with the remote services built into Win2K and particularly, remote done via the web such as the IBM product - desktop on call.

The idea of remotely accessing servers from any browser with no fat client software sounds marvellous - possibly also insecure but I'd luv to hear of peoples' experience.

Have a good one. :)

Locu
Jun 19th, 2001, 01:54 PM
Since the post above where somebody mentioned radmin I downloaded a copy. I am still in my 30 day trial; however, their registration is something like $35. A lot cheaper than pcAnywhere at 5 times that much.. but w/o quite the featureset as pcAnywhere, but nearly as much.

It serves my purposes. What I was looking for was to be able to control my desktop on remote server from local desktop. It works perfectly for that. I can't say much about speed, it seems comparable with pcAnywhere (except pcA shows network bars which is pretty reet). The more blinkies the better right? But for the cost, it definitly works (radmin).

Of course.. nothing beats a ssh root@remotelinuxserver for remote administration. Overall best solutions, fdisk, format, install linux! ;)

Mr Chunder
Jun 19th, 2001, 02:42 PM
Thanks locu. I'll check it out.:cool:

Suneil
Jun 24th, 2001, 12:56 AM
I've heard that the PLESK remote admin package works extremely well (especially if you're dealing with reseller accounts).

http://www.plesk.com

JTY
Jun 24th, 2001, 08:42 PM
Suneil,

Plesk doesn't support Windows servers.

raqworld
Jul 2nd, 2001, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Mr Chunder
Thanks you guys for your suggestions but I'm really interested in peoples' experience with the remote services built into Win2K and particularly, remote done via the web such as the IBM product - desktop on call.

The idea of remotely accessing servers from any browser with no fat client software sounds marvellous - possibly also insecure but I'd luv to hear of peoples' experience.

Have a good one. :)

<B> I have used Win2k Terminal Services and as long as you have a pretty fast connection, it works great! 56k works okay, but not if your in a hurry. You might also check out http://www.ensim.com -You can use this software to do most of the day to day hosting activities, but over the web.<p>
Good luck!<p>
</B>

Mr Chunder
Jul 3rd, 2001, 03:05 AM
Raqworld - thanks for being the person who answered one of my real questions - win2k terminal services !

I have managed to use this now and found it works absolutely fine although not used it over the internet yet. However, there are problems in that some applications still popup their windows on the console and not on the terminal client. Apparantly there are still bugs in this area in win2k?

Still trying to find out more about IBM "desktop on call.".

raqworld
Jul 5th, 2001, 10:29 AM
That sounds like a wierd problem. I have not experienced that, but I can see how that could happen.. Maybe there's a patch or something from Microsoft that acks that? KB Article? Just a thought..
Also, what type of programs do that? Maybe theres a config or something you need to change on how the program works (or maybe not, but I'm thinking about the Unix world here.. =)
Later.