Host adult sites

[yagoparamo]

Does anyone know who will host an adult site?

[Jaiem]

Adult as in porn? Or adult as in adult non-porn topics?

[yagoparamo]

I'm working already with a site that offers chat, postings, news, etc to the gay comunity in Europe. We want to do the same over here, and also with a straight site. People can also post their stuff, which includes pictures.

[kevlers]

OntimeOnline.com offers adult hosting -- but at $36.99/month for small sites and up from there.

[yagoparamo]

I'm looking for something cheaper.
It has been depresing to see that it is impossible to host an adult site in the US as any other site. I thought it was a legal business... I feel like there is a global censorship by the hosting companies.

[GregS]

Check out this one:


http://www.unrestricted.net/


They are owned by Burst.net

[Jaiem]

There is greater liability and fraud with adult sites.

[Martie]

I know this is a new site but I believe its a directory of adult providers
http://www.findmyadulthost.com/

[yagoparamo]

http://www.unrestricted.net/
This one is cool, but the space that they offer for storage is just a joke.

[yagoparamo]

All the servers that I've checked by now have high prices and low features compared with what is available for other sites.

[akashik]

Generally speaking adult hosts charge a lot because they can - they're a niche market.

There is method in madness though. Adult sites are notorious for bulk mailing and generating a lot of hate mail, as well as using a ton of resources in regard to data transfer from people downloading images day and night. In the case of your own site it doesn't appear you fall into the adult category *directly*, but the picture upload is going to be the part that tips you over the edge I think.

Sex is always a sticky point (no pun intended). A mature adult discussion sharing tasteful photos is one thing and probably something 95% of people will stick with doing. Sadly it only takes the other 5% to ruin it for everyone else and get your site (and possibly the host), taken off the air.

Most hosts just choose to pass on anything adult related as the baggage it carries with people ranting at the host for letting such things online *blah blah* Hosting adult stuff uses a lot of human resources, and as a result most will charge accordingly.

Greg Moore

[Mr Chunder]

Have you tried the advanced search engine on this site and just work your way through the results ?

[yagoparamo]

I know that a host might have problems with adult web sites because of the heavy load of resources that pulls from it, but that is why you pay for a certain space, bandw... if a server can give it to one bussines, it should give it to a diferent one. You use what you pay, without pre-asumptions.
Looking for results in search engines took me to many pornsites, pop-up windows, and a couple of sites that offered dedicated services for an enormous ammount of $.
My problem here is that I'm not building a porn site, but a site related to it that has information about it and other services. What happens is that every single host declares "adult" to anything that shows a pair of tits.
One of this days some people will forget how naked women/men are.

[Phoenix]

Have you thought of hosting it off-shore? In this country, sex is considered dirty, undesirable, unspeakable, and not the sort of thing that decent people do, look at pictures of, think about, or talk about, Europe is a bit more enlightened about that sort of thing than we are.

We used to host a site here called wickednews that was basically a server full of porn pictures culled automatically from Usenet newsgroups, and the local FOX news affiliate mentioned that site and us (they even showed our front door) during a story on the evils of Internet pornographers a couple of years ago. How embarrassing.

After that, we went to a 'no hard core porn' rule. We still have a variety of colorful customers who do written erotica and stuff, but no www.xxx.com sites and no pictures. We don't really want to be known in our community as pornographers.

[yagoparamo]

I agree with you that it is probably better to go overseas, and actually, I'm European. I just think that it is surprising that this happens in the land of the free (no offense).
I understand the position that companies, as far as I understand like yours, have taken to protect thenselves from undesired publicity. Fox, as well as other companies, had a campaing against sex, while they show murder, drugs, greed, rapes, etc on their movies.
I didn't want to open a discussion about the fallacies of our society, but I think that it is sad that the same restrains that tie our wants and needs on the real life, are also choking out virtual, supossedly more free, one.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by yagoparamo
I think that it is sad that the same restrains that tie our wants and needs on the real life, are also choking out virtual, supossedly more free, one.

Our vaunted freedom is the freedom to criticize our government, not the freedom to make personal choices based upon our own values.

Now that we've got a conservative Christian Republican (with the brains of a wilted houseplant) in the white house, it's likely that legal online pornography is going to come under government scrutiny-once he figures out how to use his iMac, that is.

The CDA may have been declared unconstitutional, but there are plenty of sneaky ways to legislate morality without being so obvious about interfering with our rights to freedom of speech.

[poorapagal]

Hey yagoparamo

Check this one out.. a fellow webmaster registered with these guys last month and his site was up in less than 24 hours .. and running perfectly fine

http://www.internetconnection.com

and yes they do adult site hosting

[FindSP.com]

Hmmm...

I think that Uptownhosting.com are offering this service....

[James]

Originally posted by Phoenix

legal online pornography is going to come under government scrutiny-once he figures out how to use his iMac, that is.


Here we go with the anti Mac user group again! I think that Bush's problems run little deeper than his choice of hardware ;)

I have seen the light (on my notebook) and its Apple :)

[yagoparamo]

As I said before, I didn't intend to offend anyone about the freedoms in the US, it was just a notation on the control that, not only the gov. but also ourselves, have in this service/legal bussiness.
You might like it or not, it might fit on you moral values or not, but still, it is a legal bussiness.
What I really dislike is the fact that the majority of the web hosts (like some posted in this conversation) had to deny to host adult sites because of public opinion issues.
I wonder then why playboy, penthouse, etc.... sell millions of magazines and other related articles a year. Maybe webmasters don't buy them...
I see it like proclaming yourself as a vegetarian and owning a meat market. I just didn't like the fallacy we all portrait.
I found (just for the record) a site the will host an adult site and that has regular prices: www.asgard.net , which I think is based in Sweeden.

[Phoenix]

You might like it or not, it might fit on you moral values or not, but still, it is a legal bussiness.

According to the US Government yes, but they've been trying to turn the Internet into a world where only Disney cartoons and the bible are acceptable content since it was invented.

The Communications Decency Act nearly achieved that several years ago, and there will be other attempts to legislate morality, especially at the State and local level.

There is a bill in the Ohio State house currently that would make it illegal for any content that is a 'danger to minors' to be available via the Internet to their citizens-not just minors, but everyone regardless of age. And the criteria are so strict that almost anything that isn't G-rated would become illegal.


What I really dislike is the fact that the majority of the web hosts (like some posted in this conversation) had to deny to host adult sites because of public opinion issues.

That's the American way. In the US, any business that is related to sex is considered dirty, sleazy, immoral, a danger to minors and family values, the haunt of deviants, and the people who run and work for these businesses are placed in the same underclass as pimps and ho's.

Municipalities regularly 'clean up' areas where sex-oriented businesses flourish-NYC's famed Times Square and Boston's notorious Combat Zone no longer feature adult movie theaters, strip clubs, and adult novelty stores. They've been sanitized for our protection.

[yagoparamo]

I was told once, while studding ethics in one university in Spain that, the opinion of the majority doesn't have to be the right opinion. Even the majority can be wrong, they just have more power at this time.
Again, I don't want to get into an argument of the fallacies that we all support, but the right to have a freedom of expression on the I-net.
One thing that makes me happy is that no matter how many rules or laws they make, how many stones they throw to the immoral, or how many servers they burn at Salems, it will be impossible to stop the free flow of information on the I-net.

[Phoenix]

That's one thing they cannot stop.

The Internet gives us a place without borders or boundaries, where free speech cannot be restricted by any government or religion. Where all people are created equal.

[Jaiem]

Originally posted by Phoenix
There is a bill in the Ohio State house currently that would make it illegal for any content that is a 'danger to minors' to be available via the Internet to their citizens-not just minors, but everyone regardless of age. And the criteria are so strict that almost anything that isn't G-rated would become illegal.

How on Earth could that law be enforced? What if someone in Ohio access an adult/sex site in Texas or Vermont or England? If they're going to do that to the net then they must also apply it to cable TV. I bet a lot of children tune into Playboy or whatever adult channels when their parents aren't home.

[yagoparamo]

To do that they would also have to monitor all the cables (hardware) that bring information into the state or just chech what you do with your computer.
It is simple, CHINA DOES IT! And they are many more than we are.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Jaiem


How on Earth could that law be enforced? What if someone in Ohio access an adult/sex site in Texas or Vermont or England? If they're going to do that to the net then they must also apply it to cable TV. I bet a lot of children tune into Playboy or whatever adult channels when their parents aren't home.

What they are doing is updating an existing law regarding child pornography to include web content. The bone of contention is about the way 'harmful to minors' is interpreted in the framework of the law. It's much more difficult for a minor to subscribe to cable or adult periodicals than it is for them to get their hands on Internet porn.

It is supposed to be just to deal with the problem of child pornography, the act of generating it is harmful to minors, or for individual adults who transmit any type of pornographic media to minors-and that's where risk to adult sites come in. It basically allows for any parent who catches their youngsters viewing inappropriate content to have the owners of the sites as well as the hosting providers prosecuted for providing it.

It will most likely be shot down like all the rest, but it may end up in the Supreme Court-again, like the CDA, the COP and other attempts to censor the Internet.