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RACRally
Jun 19th, 2001, 05:22 PM
Hi everyone,

first time on this forum. Thought I'd bring some good news to everyone regarding a domain name dispute I had recently with RAC - Royal Automobile Club and won. Case was arbitratted by Nominet UK. I have posted below an article on the dispute from The Scotsman newspaper, more information on costs, times etc. will be added if people are interetsted.

racrally.com (http://www.racrally.com)
Rally fan pips the RAC to the post in domain name dispute

Internet domain names are by no means the preserve of the big guns. As a spate of recent cases emerging from Scotland have demonstrated, there is a lot of scope for private individuals who believe in what they are doing to take on established, and usually well-resourced, organisations and win.

Earlier this year there was the case of Irving Remocker, the Glasgow businessman who successfully fought off financial giants CGU over his chess website domain name, yourmove.com, at the Geneva-based World Intellectual Property Organisation Arbitration and Mediation Centre, the main arbitration provider for dotcom domain name and other internet-related disputes.

Now comes the case of Wishaw-based motor rallying enthusiast Kevin McTear, who registered and operated an internet website to promote his interest in rallying throughout the UK, and has won a domain name ownership dispute with RAC Motoring Services.

In a judgment late last month, Nominet, the body responsible for regulating the use of all "uk" domain names, rejected the RAC?s complaint that Mr McTear was not entitled to use of his registered domain name, racrally.co.uk,


Mr McTear, a manager with NTL, is a life-long rallying fan. Early in 2000, he and a friend, Patrick Heggarty, set up the website for fellow rallying enthusiasts to share their interest throughout the UK.

To reflect the website?s content, they decided to choose as a domain name an acronym of the phrase "Race Around the Country". Shortly afterwards, they found that the domain names racrally.co.uk and racrally.org.uk were available.

RAC Motoring Services complained that it had used the trademark "RAC" for around 100 years and that it had been used extensively in connection with roadside recovery services and associated events such as rallies. Mr McTear, it contended, had no right to use the name of an event with which it was intimately associated.

Just like Mr Remocker, McTear faced up to the RAC?s complaint, knowing that unlike in a UK court, the Nominet panel before which the dispute was held does not award costs, even to the successful party to the dispute. In the event, the RAC was hampered by the fact that it had no registered trademark in "RAC Rally".

Even if it had any common law rights, these were entirely historical - they related to an event the RAC sponsored several years ago. The RAC does not have a current connection with the event, to the extent that it has even let the subsequent sponsors, Vauxhall Network Q, use a domain name similar to
McTear?s.

McTear never under-estimated the enormity of the undertaking. He said: "Taking on a major organisation was a nerve-wracking experience, but since the domain name was available and we were prepared to put a great many hours into establishing and developing the website, we believed we were entitled to hold onto it.

"Our legal advisers, too, believed in us, and that helped give us the confidence to defend the complaint."

As legal advisers to many legitimate owners of domain names, we have always counselled that given the relatively low costs of registering a domain name, it makes sense to own as many permutations of your own trading style as you can possibly think of.

In the case of our firm, we must own two dozen or so registered domain names all of which are variations on the theme that we are MacRoberts and that we are a Scottish law firm with offices in Glasgow and Edinburgh with specialisms in internet law.

So, since even the moderately successful entrepreneur tends to have a clutch of business interests, anyone wise enough to take our professional advice, could easily end up registering 40, 50, 60 or more domain names. Far from speculation, the ownership of so many domain names is a protective measure to prevent others from duplicating your trading style.

A recent initiative to introduce an internet domain names code, Incop, has been launched by Nominet, which aims to cut down on the numbers of those prepared to speculate in domain name ownership in the anticipation that they will be able to cash-in when established organisations come along and acquire them.

The objective is a laudable one, but without any teeth it is difficult to see how rogue domain name buyers will be deterred. Piracy of domain names is an inevitable concomitant of a rapidly developing global phenomenon, though how long into the future it is likely to continue as a major issue is anyone?s guess.

Elaine Gray is an Associate at MacRoberts, solicitors, and specialises in
litigation matters.


Monday, 11th June 2001
The Scotsman


first time on this forum. Thought I'd bring some good news to everyone regarding a domain name dispute I had recently with RAC - Royal Automobile Club and won. Case was arbitratted by Nominet UK. I have posted below an article from The Scotsman newspaper, more information on costs, times etc. will be added if people are interetsted.

Jaiem
Jun 19th, 2001, 09:11 PM
IMO it's one thing to register a known, brand name with the hope/intent of reselling it to the brand owner for a big profit. Like registering www.COKE.com intending to sell it for millions to Coca-Cola.

OTOH, registering a domain name based on a phrase or a concept hoping to resell it is, I think, like buying prime undeveloped real estate. There is no requirement to develop the land you purchase. Very speculative but nothing wrong in buying prime undeveloped real estate hoping to resell it.

Likewise, IMO a company or organization doesn't have a pre-emptive ownership right to something they haven't registered. If it was so important they can splurge for the $20 or $30 to register and park the domain name.

JTY
Jun 19th, 2001, 09:42 PM
It's good to see the little guy win!!!

Tommy
Jun 20th, 2001, 02:56 AM
Hi and welcome to the forums.

It's great to see that large corporate companies can not always bully people into handing over a domain name that is being used for legitimate websites.

What were the events leading up to the Nominet arbitration? Who suggested this route?

RACRally
Jun 20th, 2001, 02:21 PM
Late last year when RAC threatened leagal action I spoke with a lawywers firm (not mention any names) who were of a very poor standard. Unfortunately costs had then been realised and a fee of £285.00 had to be paid. Trying to find someone with a proven track record on domain dispute and a reputable organisation proved very difficult. I checked ICAAN site for specifics of hearings which had been upheld in respect of the Resondent to estbalish details of a reputable lawyer - I found a dispute for YourMove.com

I contacted MacRoberts Solicitors who after discussions and checking some background relating to the site agreed to represent me with preperation of a submission to Nominet. The agreed costing of this was £500. I know with some of the experience you guys may have this may seem quite a hefty figure but with this firm having a previous succesful track record and time being short I had to move fast.I felt it best to invest that any further expenditure be made wisely.

In total almost £800 in lawyers fees was spent in defending againast the complainamt RAC Motoring Services. This obviously is without taking into consideration any e-mail correspondence, travel, telephone and time costs in dealing with this dispute. I feel we could easily push the costs in defending this towards being in excess of £1,000.

I am now of the that it would be less expensive in some instances for the complainant to take a domain name dipsute to Nominet / ICAAN than to settle an agreed pass of figure for sale. There was so much self preservation at stake by the end that I felt I had to take on this "bully blue chip" - RAC Motoring Services.

The costs which they incurred by them were probably written of in petty cash but at least they now know they cannot intimidate everyone to a surrender. All correspondence rec'd from them was very intimidating, this probably made me more determined all the way through to take them on and beat them.

RAC Motoring Services now have the right to appeal to appeal against Nominets decision. Also .com and other related domains which are not UK related can be referred to ICAAN / WIPO under a completely different referral. How confident they would be indoing this I'm unsure though.

I feel that the process operated by Nominet is completeley unfair. Unlike in a UK court the Nominet panel before which the dispute resoloution was heard does not award cost
reimbursement to the successful party.Costs to me continuing I'm unsure.

Can anyone tell me how I can relate this story on the net through newsgroups etc, I feel it would be an encouragement to others to stand up and not be intimidated.